tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-634496984020324532.post7536725697295547595..comments2023-10-31T14:36:59.054+00:00Comments on anticant's burrow: CASE DISMISSEDanticanthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18135207107619114891noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-634496984020324532.post-8125602116850503892006-12-11T11:41:00.000+00:002006-12-11T11:41:00.000+00:00Freaky if anything.
Me like.
Oh and I just love ...Freaky if anything.<br /><br />Me like.<br /><br />Oh and I just love a bit of harmony I do. So great that you and Billst kissed and made up ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-634496984020324532.post-69646303664795088122006-12-11T10:53:00.000+00:002006-12-11T10:53:00.000+00:00Thanks, YD. billst and I have made our seasonal pe...Thanks, YD. billst and I have made our seasonal peace over on Pike's site [fascinating discussion on Angela's 'Shameless Advertising' thread - have you seen it?]<br /><br />I don't think he's a troll - whatever that is - just a bit too insensitively provocative at times - and I'm not really a Georgina "chuck 'em off" type. I might even offer billst a mince pie if he pokes his nose into the burrow again. How's that for non-Christian charity?anticanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18135207107619114891noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-634496984020324532.post-79768008312332198542006-12-11T10:37:00.000+00:002006-12-11T10:37:00.000+00:00Sorry but I don't remember ever having signed up t...Sorry but I don't remember ever having signed up to any programme re Zee Awkward Squad. <br /><br />So if Anti wants to ban billst - fair dues. I think in his case he is absolutely right, although my personal opinion is irrelevant in this case.<br /><br />My preferred mode of operandi would be to ignore a troll rather than to feed him or her.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-634496984020324532.post-16000432714098325042006-12-09T10:43:00.000+00:002006-12-09T10:43:00.000+00:00Yes you two : that would be interesting for many ...Yes you two : that would be interesting for many others I think.<br /><br />Look forward to that i do.zola a social thinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14206983697656466653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-634496984020324532.post-38075668468210184572006-12-09T09:34:00.000+00:002006-12-09T09:34:00.000+00:00*slightly embarrassed*. I'm really not very good a...*slightly embarrassed*. I'm really not very good at philosophising - you may have noticed - but I could try, I suppose.<br /><br />I certainly don't write this kind of thing on my own blog - doesn't fit.<br /><br />Thanks for asking, I'll have a think about it and see if I've really got anything to say.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-634496984020324532.post-58629149027206386732006-12-09T09:22:00.000+00:002006-12-09T09:22:00.000+00:00That's a very interesting point. Would you like to...That's a very interesting point. Would you like to elaborate on it? I'd be pleased to put it up as a new post thread. [Am getting a bit fed up with doing all the burrow decorating myself!]anticanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18135207107619114891noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-634496984020324532.post-30210444154464985612006-12-09T08:45:00.000+00:002006-12-09T08:45:00.000+00:00It isn't just "that cast of mind", though, is it?...It isn't just "that cast of mind", though, is it? It's "that cast of mind" in conjunction with a specific set of experiences and beliefs.<br /><br />"Casts of mind" don't exist alone in the real world, they're always allied to an individual, with that individual's own baggage.<br /><br />If I've decided, on the basis of my own baggage, that setting up conflicts in order to attack what I think someone might have meant is not a sensible way to proceed, then that's what I've decided. The only consequences that follow are those which flow from interaction with me, personally.<br /><br />I have no direct influence or control over what happens in the world. I have a tiny degree of influence over what happens in my minuscule corner of it. That's all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-634496984020324532.post-73685699719155404522006-12-09T08:27:00.000+00:002006-12-09T08:27:00.000+00:00The consequences for other people of that cast of ...The consequences for other people of that cast of mind are not "only words". I'm surprised you don't seem to grasp this obvious point.anticanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18135207107619114891noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-634496984020324532.post-80294518813754234042006-12-09T07:53:00.000+00:002006-12-09T07:53:00.000+00:00Incidentally, I think it's time to point out that ...Incidentally, I think it's time to point out that this whole discussion has arisen because I didn't make one of my points clearly enough and it was misinterpreted. <br /><br />When I said, "it's only words", I was only talking about being labelled an intellectual fascist. Someone else's label, not mine. That's why I'm not bothered.<br /><br />Funny how things go, isn't it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-634496984020324532.post-74453588374295087722006-12-09T07:46:00.000+00:002006-12-09T07:46:00.000+00:00It seems to me it's a simple equation. If horrors ...It seems to me it's a simple equation. If horrors are caused by people who believe irrational things and people who believe rational things, then it's pretty obvious that the beliefs themselves are irrelevant. The psycho will find his or her framework to justify their actions whatever.<br /><br />Turning into a good guy/bad guy scenario like this isn't helpful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-634496984020324532.post-58904217063279477622006-12-09T07:40:00.000+00:002006-12-09T07:40:00.000+00:00Communism wasn't "supremely rational". It was base...Communism wasn't "supremely rational". It was based on a closed circuit of unfalsifiable assumptions, unverifiable on Popper's principle, just like any other religion or quasi-religion.anticanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18135207107619114891noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-634496984020324532.post-55461279443052739842006-12-09T07:36:00.000+00:002006-12-09T07:36:00.000+00:00Bush and Blair are Christian - so they have irrati...Bush and Blair are Christian - so they have irrational beliefs, and look at the mess they've created.<br /><br />Communism was supremely rational - it made perfect sense. Look at the horrors it caused.<br /><br />Can you see any difference? I can't.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-634496984020324532.post-71338917824385066932006-12-09T04:36:00.000+00:002006-12-09T04:36:00.000+00:00Thanks, anon. Good to know you agree - though whet...Thanks, anon. Good to know you agree - though whether or not anyone else agrees makes no difference to my stance. "Just walk away" is too easy: like the appeasers in the 1930s, and the loopy left in the 1940s and '50s who convinced themselves that Stalin's Soviets were a vegetarian's paradise.<br /><br />And motivation, while it may be a mitigating factor, isn't the central issue. It's the impact of the irrational beliefs upon others that is the crux. The communication is the message received. I'm quite sure Dubya and Yo-yo Blair are convinced that their motives are whiter than white. Tell that to 650,000 dead Iraqis.anticanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18135207107619114891noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-634496984020324532.post-32769534823946845152006-12-09T04:26:00.000+00:002006-12-09T04:26:00.000+00:00Ginger: So pleased you are looking into the burrow...Ginger: So pleased you are looking into the burrow. What happened? You pressed the wrong button. Please try again. Do become a regular visitor!anticanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18135207107619114891noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-634496984020324532.post-34987373830650562692006-12-09T02:23:00.000+00:002006-12-09T02:23:00.000+00:00Thanks, GrumpyCrumpet, did know the whole lot of H...Thanks, GrumpyCrumpet, did know the whole lot of Hogg during my flirtation with those of that ilk.<br />Now, I have to draw a line and say that you are right (absolutely) and Szwagier is wrong. The Swagman has a very good idea of where I am on this and we have to beg to differ.<br />I hate being absolutist but I am my own judge and I am not for 'pleading out' this one.<br />Stick with it Grumpy - I certainly will. I will plead out as a last resort. That resort has never been reached (maybe one time on Wigan Pier).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-634496984020324532.post-68858973492767255322006-12-09T01:03:00.000+00:002006-12-09T01:03:00.000+00:00Damn - I just wrote about 2000 words and they disa...Damn - I just wrote about 2000 words and they disappeared into the ether. What happened ?johttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07766182928328886737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-634496984020324532.post-78085075063546323952006-12-08T21:23:00.000+00:002006-12-08T21:23:00.000+00:00Sad, but true.Sad, but true.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-634496984020324532.post-29746921910039464832006-12-08T20:04:00.000+00:002006-12-08T20:04:00.000+00:00"And all men kill the thing they love,
By all let ..."And all men kill the thing they love,<br />By all let this be heard,<br />Some do it with a bitter look,<br />Some with a flattering word,<br />The coward does it with a kiss,<br />The brave man with a sword!"<br /><br />- OSCAR WILDE, concluding stanza of "The Ballad of Reading Gaol".anticanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18135207107619114891noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-634496984020324532.post-5551331807638994242006-12-08T19:52:00.000+00:002006-12-08T19:52:00.000+00:00It's not so bad. Everyone is (that which they hate...It's not so bad. Everyone is (that which they hate) to a greater or lesser extent. Aren't they?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-634496984020324532.post-9799358994506384872006-12-08T19:44:00.000+00:002006-12-08T19:44:00.000+00:00Maybe I am [sighs wearily....]Maybe I am [sighs wearily....]anticanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18135207107619114891noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-634496984020324532.post-53475586428139841852006-12-08T19:40:00.001+00:002006-12-08T19:40:00.001+00:00In my opinion, of course.In my opinion, of course.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-634496984020324532.post-9977319917698910922006-12-08T19:40:00.000+00:002006-12-08T19:40:00.000+00:00In which case you are well on the road to becoming...In which case you are well on the road to becoming that which you say you hate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-634496984020324532.post-35512106905131865252006-12-08T19:28:00.000+00:002006-12-08T19:28:00.000+00:00That's where you are so wrong! It isn't "only word...That's where you are so wrong! It isn't "only words". Look where "only words" have brought us since 9/11, and before.<br /><br />I don't give a tuppeny toss whether people like that ever "wonder". I just want them off my back. They are a menace.anticanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18135207107619114891noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-634496984020324532.post-16264864867640922652006-12-08T19:08:00.000+00:002006-12-08T19:08:00.000+00:00"Total absence of self-doubt is the hallmark of th..."Total absence of self-doubt is the hallmark of the intellectual fascist"<br /><br />It may well be, but I don't think that matters.<br /><br />If it takes trampling all over me and dancing on my grave to make someone wonder, even for a moment, then I'll do it. I'm strong enough.<br /><br />Perhaps that makes me an intellectual fascist, too. I'm not bothered, it's only words.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-634496984020324532.post-23530542348738333272006-12-08T19:02:00.000+00:002006-12-08T19:02:00.000+00:00Thanks, anon. And do READ Hogg's "Justified Sinner...Thanks, anon. And do READ Hogg's "Justified Sinner", everyone! It's a gripping story, and easily obtainable in Oxford World Classics paperback.anticanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18135207107619114891noreply@blogger.com